Viking doesnt climb like a ranger

tmcelheny said:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wUvFmL4FHP0

Video of me trying a steeper grade on old boney piles.....this hill has been climbed by my brother on his ranger at a slow creep, just how i tried... My tires are way more aggressive than his bearclaws too.....dont get me wrong, when i romp on it in 4x4 it climbs awesome...i just thing the ranger delivers the power to the ground in a more efficient way....thoughts?

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I found the opposite to be true... I had a Ranger XP 900 for a test drive weekend and in the mud and snow it could not hold a candle to the Viking.
The rear wheels on the ranger have to spin before engaging the front wheels which IMO was not right. I then did the same test ride with the Viking and it performed like a champ. I explained the reason for choosing the Viking over the Ranger to the Polaris dealer and he did not have any facts to dispute my experience... We are very happy with the Yamaha!

You got the 27 in tires and they are heavier and in my opinion will need the machined sheave or clutch kit to help with low end grunt. I have the same tires and can definitely feel the difference compared to stock.

You might try lower air pressure in the tires for the loose dirt and sand. I took the viking to sand hollow in Utah and it sucked until I got down under 7 psi in the tires.

Mark

I too ride with a couple rangers. I found that they were getting around a little better climbing and such....but I also found that I was running too much air in the tires. Now it's pretty much the same for both on a straight hill climb.

reduce air pressure.

so in summary, yes the ranger has superior, ah, tire pressure?

No...i have dropped the pressue under 10 pounds per tire... 7-8 ish...the viking has way more acceleration and brute strength than my brother 700 xp but im just saying for slow climbing, it must be something about how the two machines are different by design that allows the ranger to creep up steep grades..weight distribution, length, something...i will post up a vid of his machine doing it slow...


This hill is right beside the one i was doing and is even washed out

vixx said:

so in summary, yes the ranger has superior, ah, tire pressure?

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absolutely!!!.....word on the street is they run nitrogen in them.

Lol...guess ill hafta get some nitrogen

First off that second grade that the ranger went up looked to be harder ground. Your bigger tires are not helping. Its like you are starting in second gear and then straight to wheel spin. Put the stockers on and try it and I will guarantee that the outcome will be different. The stock clutching matches the stock gearing and tires.
When people put bigger tires on and think it will not affect performance, then you are sadly mistaken.

Yamahas clutching is way superior over the Ranger 800, let alone a 700. Yamaha's 4 wheel drive is way superior as well.

tmcelheny said:

No...i have dropped the pressue under 10 pounds per tire... 7-8 ish...the viking has way more acceleration and brute strength than my brother 700 xp but im just saying for slow climbing, it must be something about how the two machines are different by design that allows the ranger to creep up steep grades..weight distribution, length, something...i will post up a vid of his machine doing it slow...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ClNgk6OD6gs

This hill is right beside the one i was doing and is even washed out

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Must be something about the weight distribution or set up that makes it work better in that situation! Try to show him up someplace else

Not sure if you know your rig quite yet. I was taking my viking places my buddies 900 rzr with aftermarket mudlites was having troubles. The viking has been superior to the razor on hill climbs for me anyway. I'm running 28 inch roctanes


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When I romp on the thing I can smoke him in any situation, mud, snow, racing. Even rippin up the hills fast , it is awesome at it... It just seems like he shows me up on them slow, steep,hill climbs .. Mine gets halfway up and just starts to dig itself a hole. He even runs half wore out bearclaws

Different 4wd system. Unless your in diff lock it doesn't like to crawl from a stop


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Thats true, could be the 4wd system.

yea were you in full diff lock here?

vixx said:

yea were you in full diff lock here?

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Yes sir

Remember too once the tires dig holes you are basically trying to drive up hill, the front part of the hole is the hill. The belt and auto clutch system in the viking won't allow you to idle along either, you're either idling and going nowhere or doing 10mph at quarter throttle, there's nothing in between. Maybe the Ranger can idle and crawl.

cactus said:

Remember too once the tires dig holes you are basically trying to drive up hill, the front part of the hole is the hill. The belt and auto clutch system in the viking won't allow you to idle along either, you're either idling and going nowhere or doing 10mph at quarter throttle, there's nothing in between. Maybe the Ranger can idle and crawl.

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No you are wrong about the clutching compared to the Rangers. The rangers give way more belt slip at a slow speed, where the Yamahas don't. The Yamahas keeps the belts always tight to allow for slow crawling and less belt slip. I am willing to bet it has to do with the type of tire he has on it and the size of the tire.