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Monkey's Summit Racing Heater Install

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UPS came early today! I am expecting the rest of my parts on Friday.

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Wondering would punkah louvres be useful for defrost vents, smaller size would mean more mounting options. I just finished installing the kolpin full cab enclosure a few weeks ago, just ordered the heater mentioned, looks like should have installed the heater first
I know this isn't a summit heater, but if anyone is looking for a heater, moto alliance has a firestorm heater on ebay right now for $81 (bids open for another 36 hours. That is probably going to be an extremely good deal. Happy with the one I installed. They seem well built. Just an FYI........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIRESTORM-COMPACT-Cab-Heater-w-Defrost-Custom-Kit-for-YAMAHA-VIKING/391356006468?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dc702b16d03be474490adfea59fe09bf0%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D391356006468
I know this isn't a summit heater, but if anyone is looking for a heater, moto alliance has a firestorm heater on ebay right now for $81 (bids open for another 36 hours. That is probably going to be an extremely good deal. Happy with the one I installed. They seem well built. Just an FYI........

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FIRESTORM-C...fe09bf0&pid=100033&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=391356006468
That's a great deal, even at $200.

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Hey BM, now that the weather is starting to cool off and you've had a chance to use your heater in cold(er) weather.....
how warm does it get in your cab.....hat and gloves off if it was -20F outside, or just kind of takes the chill off the air but plenty more comfortable?
Hey BM, now that the weather is starting to cool off and you've had a chance to use your heater in cold(er) weather.....
how warm does it get in your cab.....hat and gloves off if it was -20F outside, or just kind of takes the chill off the air but plenty more comfortable?
It hasn't been that cold yet. I have a digital thermometer somewhere. I will wire it up to plug into the accessory jack so I can get some Temps.

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Hey BM, now that the weather is starting to cool off and you've had a chance to use your heater in cold(er) weather.....
how warm does it get in your cab.....hat and gloves off if it was -20F outside, or just kind of takes the chill off the air but plenty more comfortable?
I took mine out to check my trail cams last weekend. It was about 30 degrees Fahrenheit. It got warm in the cab while I was checking the first cam. It got really toasty after the second cam. I don't how it will do below zero. One problem I noticed is the air coming through the parking brake and gear selector when moving kind of negates the heater for the driver. I need to come up with a way to seal those off. One thing I think could improve the output of this style of heater is a thermostat bypass so the heater has constant flow.The thermostat must be restricting flow to the heater as it opens and closes.
Hey BM, now that the weather is starting to cool off and you've had a chance to use your heater in cold(er) weather.....
how warm does it get in your cab.....hat and gloves off if it was -20F outside, or just kind of takes the chill off the air but plenty more comfortable?
I put a 12v accessory plug on my digital thermometer and wire tied it all to the grab bar. The dash heater vents are pointed away from it. I let the Viking idle while I gassed her up and attached the plow. The outside temp was 23 degrees F. The inside temp is just under 70.



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I put a 12v accessory plug on my digital thermometer and wire tied it all to the grab bar. The dash heater vents are pointed away from it. I let the Viking idle while I gassed her up and attached the plow. The outside temp was 23 degrees F. The inside temp is just under 70.



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Nice!
I think your heater deifinitely pumps out more heat than mine does.
I think your heater deifinitely pumps out more heat than mine does.
Tonight was a first real test. It was 26 degrees outside. I made a few plow and salt passes in the driveway.



So the answer to your question is no hat, no gloves, no coat.

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Tonight was a first real test. It was 26 degrees outside. I made a few plow and salt passes in the driveway.



So the answer to your question is no hat, no gloves, no coat.

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Wow, I still think yours is performing better than mine!
D**n dog, I've got me some cipherin' to do. I don't get near that warm. Now, I know I've got to fill the gap at the top of the windshield (definitely getting a draft in there) so I'll work on that tomorrow. I might have to get me one of them summit heaters for next winter if I can't get it anywhere near that. Good job, and thanks for the info.
D**n dog, I've got me some cipherin' to do. I don't get near that warm. Now, I know I've got to fill the gap at the top of the windshield (definitely getting a draft in there) so I'll work on that tomorrow. I might have to get me one of them summit heaters for next winter if I can't get it anywhere near that. Good job, and thanks for the info.
I won't believe your heater can't do the same.

Keep in mind that I am driving slowly and that my enclosure seals up things up very well. The only significant gaps are where the enclosure hangs over the doors, because that velcro came off on both sides. I am planning to fix this with the plastic push fastener method that Ricochet or Kboyd (I think) used. Here are a few things to look at.

Make sure you have zero air in the system. Park on a steep uphill and take off the radiator cap. Is it totally full?

If your heater has a heat control valve maybe you should bypass it.

Choose a method to reduce the flow to the radiator. There are a bunch of ways. Just don't reduce it by more than 50 %.

Block the radiator like Mass and I did.

Make sure your Y fittings are installed with the top of the Y towards the radiator on both sides.



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I won't believe your heater can't do the same.

Keep in mind that I am driving slowly and that my enclosure seals up things up very well. The only significant gaps are where the enclosure hangs over the doors, because that velcro came off on both sides. I am planning to fix this with the plastic push fastener method that Ricochet or Kboyd (I think) used. Here are a few things to look at.

Make sure you have zero air in the system. Park on a steep uphill and take off the radiator cap. Is it totally full?

If your heater has a heat control valve maybe you should bypass it.

Choose a method to reduce the flow to the radiator. There are a bunch of ways. Just don't reduce it by more than 50 %.

Block the radiator like Mass and I did.

Make sure your Y fittings are installed with the top of the Y towards the radiator on both sides.



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I haven't tried blocking the radiator yet, this may be the key. It wasn't me that used the plastic fasteners.
I haven't tried blocking the radiator yet, this may be the key. It wasn't me that used the plastic fasteners.

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I just checked and ikeepitcold is the one who came up with method of using plastic fasteners to hold the enclosure to the doors.
me and the wife went for a ride Sat evening, it was 40 and there was a slight wind, we had on tennis shoes, jeans and sweatshirts. it was plenty warm while the wind wasn't blowing to hard but we stopped at a friends to check out a new house they're building and while we were there it started to get dark so the temps dropped (34 by the time we got home) and the wind really started to blow. the ride home was chilly but bearable once the Viking got back up to temp. the doors around the hinges let in a lot of air when you have a significant cross wind and I still have the gap (about the size of your fist) at the top of my doors near the front of the windshield that lets air in when you have the crosswind. I'm going to try to sew or velcro a piece in the gap but I don't have a good idea for the doors. The weatherstripping I put along the bottom of the factory windshield made a really big difference so if I can get the other gaps stopped I should be able to stay plenty warm. I don't feel my cab was as warm as BM's but then again I was cruising anywhere from 20 to 35 mph. but I'd guess if I was doing work like he's doing I'd have around the same temp. you have to be loosing a ton of heat from the gap at the top of the winshield, that would be the first thing to close off then it's just a game of going for a spin and seeing where you feel air and coming up with a plan to close it off. I did put some insulated foam around the heater hoses where they go into my weather enclosure for the heater and also put spray foam to cut down on the direct cold air intake and it seemed to help. basically it draws air from behind the battery now, I know it's still cold air but it's not being forced thru the fan like it was before. I also have anywhere from 1/3 to 2/3 of the radiator blocked depending on the outside temp.
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I know this has been mentioned before but, for those of you that have heaters of ANY kind, make sure you have checked the "Y" connectors. They are really just "T" connectors with the 5/8" tube welded onto them at an angle. When you look inside them you just might find that it's a round, instead of oval, hole between the two. By running a 1/2" drill bit down the 5"8 side you can really increase the hot water flow to your heater core..
I know this has been mentioned before but, for those of you that have heaters of ANY kind, make sure you have checked the "Y" connectors. They are really just "T" connectors with the 5/8" tube welded onto them at an angle. When you look inside them you just might find that it's a round, instead of oval, hole between the two. By running a 1/2" drill bit down the 5"8 side you can really increase the hot water flow to your heater core..
Thanks Mass. I am pretty sure I recall that B767 did this already.
I could be completely wrong but I thought our Summit heaters were 28000 btu's and the Firestorm were only 22000. I'm not sure what 6000 btu's are worth but maybe that's more of a reason than anything. I didn't take the time to look it up so I may be waaayyy off base but...maybe???

ok so I went back and found the Summit is 28000 and the Firestorm is only 14600, but then I also found where B767 has the Summit heater. I'd just start with blocking the air you're getting from the windsheild gap and go from there. I feel really bad for anyone that's running a Firestorm, more money and barely more than 1/2 the btu's
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