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Hello everyone, first post. Been reading on here for a couple weeks. I have a 09' Rhino and swear buy it, and im buying a 4-6seater machine here this month and went out yesterday to Drive the Commander 1000 max, Ranger 900 crew, and Viking VI. I wanted to justify the Viking and get my mind right about the power against the others. I've had Yamaha all my life. Wanted to go out as unbiased as possible though and just observe.

I need a hunting machine / utility. Don't get me wrong I like to cut up but don't ride trails and go to mud bogs etc.

I wanted to post my thoughts on the Viking here for upcoming people on the forum as I saw no thread on driving one yet.

I should have but didn't drive the Commander, I really liked it but it is simply not enough utility for me. Im 6'0 180 and its not the easiest to get in and out the front or back of the machine. Not hard but not a quick jump in and go... once you get in, the seats are comfortable and you feel very secure. Bed size is smaller than the other three. Take 4 guys, put your cold gear on, shotguns, decoys... There is simply not enough room here. I feel like im sitting in a racer more or less. Looked a little more "fancy" then "rugged".

Viking: Initially thoughts, this thing is very long compared to the others. Not bad but the first thing I said to myself when I walked up to it was, "oh man, im gonna high center this thing with 6 people in it". Looked it over pretty good, no doubt, quality product, I had about 1" clearance in front of my knees when sitting comfortable in the back. Front seat is roomy, back seat same feel, bed is nice, everything looks like my rhino somewhat just bigger. Very impressed. Took it out back, salesman took off first with me and my wife and hit a curb at about a 45deg angle at about 15mph, I gritted my teeth before we hit it but to my surprise we ran right over it one wheel at a time and it felt like we just ran over maybe something the diameter of a baseball bat. It was amazing how nice it felt... took some turns etc., everything is great. Little quieter than the Rhino, not as much vibration, but still has some, doesn't bother me at all. Now here comes the important part. I drove the machine a little bit then the salesmen said, "punch it a few times". I basically would run about 7mph then floor it, and it felt maybe as powerful as my Rhino but maybe a little less as bad as I hate to say that. This is with two guys and my wife at 120lbs... Not to drag this out but, lets just say 4 guys, not 6, gear, hard pack your probably fine you'll just have to keep your foot in it over hills, but if I had to take this thing across some muddy farm land where the ground was soft, i'd be very nervous. If Low range was really Low i'd have brought the thing home with me but its like the normal rhino low.

Ranger 900 Crew: This is the unit I was most against but now is one the top of my list after yesterday, I know this is actually sad for you to read and me to type. Trust me I wanted to make the Viking work so bad. Ranger nice, looks like its built pretty well, bed and seats are fine. Ride felt pretty good, Obviously the salesman didn't hit a curb at almost 20mph to show off, but it felt pretty good. Surprisingly quiet, very quiet and smooth, not much vibration at all. Very impressed actually. Salesman babied the thing until I finally told him to take off already. We were on some hard pack ground but loose rock and when he punched it it show a stream of pebbles about 25ft out the back and we set back in the seat when it set down and took off. Guy looked over to me and said, I didn't even put it to the floor. Did it again just to cut up a little. Definitely no issues with getting bigger tires and power loss. It felt pretty dang powerful.

Summing this up:
Commander: not a utility machine really for what I call utility and work.
Viking: Very nice, nice ride, quality, underpowered compared to the competition no question about it. 900-1000cc motor would take the market over for this type "utility" machine. I'm very disappointed in the 700 engine. 6 men will fit easily, but with extra bed gear, its not enough unless you riding around the farm or down the farm rode on good ground. If that's what you do, its the way to go for sure. Sure a clutch kit and maybe some other mods would get the Viking going a little but there is a part of me that doesn't want to have to modify my machine right out the door and throw my extended warranty out the window.
Ranger: Nice, feels good, quiet, plenty of power, looks "rugged". The winner in my eyes:(


I feel let down actually, I think I lost 2hrs sleep last night trying to convince myself that its ok to buy the Polaris. No doubt they have a troubled past, but the forums on the new 900 are a lot better. All forums are gonna have horror stories, and that's where you come with your problems. Polaris guys said they have 50% of the market. If that's true sure your gonna see lots more problems on the forums just by the numbers... The machine is built nice, thought out, and has what you'd expect for power in a machine like this.
 

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Great reviews on all

I kind of agree with ya on the Viking VI, its huge, and under powered IMO.

Far as Polaris goes, i had always had Yamaha's for years, never let me down, needed a sxs in 2010, Rhino was to small, got a new 2010 Ranger 500 fullsize, not gonna drag on the story, but lets just say that was my first and will be the last Polaris!! I like there products, but wouldn't give them another dime.

Ive got a Can-am Outlander 800 XTP and love it, no issues. I really like there SXS's too, but like you, i needed something with a big bed and more than 2 seats. I wish the Viking had a V-twin motor!!
 

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I completely understand your assessment. I went down the " Power" road with Kawasaki.

I too, hunt extensively and as my name indicates duck hunting is my passion. I strictly chose the Viking due to my buddy's Rhino. It always starts, never has any issue and I've past the point of how fast can I get there for I want to get there and back every time. We have had (4) grown men and (2) kids in it and it just trudges on, Again, not the fastest or most powerful compared to the rest. But it does what it's designed to do and that is work.

The power of the Polaris is very intoxicating, the durability would be my question.

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great review. sad to hear the viking 6 has no power. thought for sure they wouldve added some power to that huge machine. but like viking 2k14 said i say no way to.polaris. they mite look good and run good at first but most have problems. my cousin is on his third one in 5 yrs. 1st one had engine problems so he thought it was a fluke and traded it on a new one. second one caught fire and burned to the ground. aftr alot of hassle polaris took it back and gave him a new one and this one has engine and transmission trouble too and hes ready to sell it and get a viking like mine. in my opinion id rather hav a slow side by side than one thats in the shop all the time.
 

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thanks everyone,

not saying it has no power just not in the ballgame with what ranger has out there I guess.

I actually posted this in the Viking VI forum where I thought it would be relevant, not sure why it ended up here. oh well...
 

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thanks everyone,

not saying it has no power just not in the ballgame with what ranger has out there I guess.

I actually posted this in the Viking VI forum where I thought it would be relevant, not sure why it ended up here. oh well...
I move it to the right area for you
 

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I guess im just trying to bring myself back around to the Viking. I can't believe im even having this conversation right now on Yamaha products.

If you need a 4 seater, and know you are going to have 4 guys, heavier machine, and weight in the bed, do you buy the Viking knowing dang good and well you need more power and will be pushing the machine pretty hard to begin with. Then the dealer lets you drive a ranger that feels like it can handle even more weight with no problem.
 

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You have good points, but look at it this way, the Yamaha is a lot bulletproof, where as, Polaris is far from it, and will be in the shop a lot... Get the Viking, lift it, do the machined she eve mod etc
 

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also, what do you guys think the best plan would be to get a little more ground clearance. I don't want to stress anything, maybe just go bigger tires, only... but there comes the power issue again...
 

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Over the many years of reading the atv and auto forums, there is a LAW thats states that a company can in NO WAY just void your warranty just for putting an aftermarket part on, UNLESS, they can PROVE that it cause the issue. Thats what ive read many times over the years.

But here's my thinking, I could have picked any thing i wanted, but soon as I Heard about the Viking coming out, i put the Ranger up for sale, and thankfully, didn't take long to sale. I wanted Yamaha, because i know from the many ive owned, they never let me down. whereas, thats all the Polaris did, and it was always in the shop, close to 10 trips between 2 dealers, weeks at a time. Thats why i got the Can-am, because i wanted something to drive while the POS Ranger was in the shop. I didn't go Yamaha on the atv because i wanted alot of power and the sound of the V-twin, my buddy had one, that he thrash's pretty good, and never had an issue, so i got the Can-am.
 

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also, what do you guys think the best plan would be to get a little more ground clearance. I don't want to stress anything, maybe just go bigger tires, only... but there comes the power issue again...
In your quote you are saying you don't want to stress anything,but yet your still looking at the Polaris? To me Polaris draws everyone in with the extra power but then reality sets in with poor quality and warranty issues and in a year or two you wonder how the **** I ended up with it. Ever wonder why you see so many newer polaris models on craigslist for sale with next to no miles on a $15, 000-$$20, 000 machine, two words poor quality. Now for guys who don't mind tinkering all the time and want a fast machine I'm sure they fit the bill. Just won't get any of my money.
 

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also, what do you guys think the best plan would be to get a little more ground clearance. I don't want to stress anything, maybe just go bigger tires, only... but there comes the power issue again...
i would call hunterworks and ask them about the power difference with the machine sheeve and clutch kit before you buy if your concerned about the issue. these buggies are new so not many power mods yet but im sure there will be more to come in the future. there is a thread around here somewhere that a company had a lifted "v6" with big tires and clutch kit. maybe call and talk to them.
 

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i lookd around real quick and couldnt find it here but it is on the other viking forum. the place is called velocity powersports. they did a few "v6" with a 5in lift and 30 in tires.
 

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I would have no worries on the quality of the ranger 900. I have one and have a little over 2500 miles of trouble free usage. I'm not saying you might not have problems, as their are good and bad with any manufacturer, but I've had good luck with 3 different rangers I've owned.
we just got back from a trip to taylor park Colorado where we rode about 9 days putting over 500 miles of hard trail riding and it was an eye opening experience. the reason you here about more problems with Polaris is because their were about 10 Polaris side by sides to 1 of anything else....actually the ratio might have been more like 15 to 1. I saw 1 Viking, 3 Honda pioneers a handful of artic cats and Kawasaki's and several can ams. I've read Polaris has 75% of the market share in side by sides and believe it after personally witnessing it for myself. I agree Yamaha is a good quality product that is sure to last you several years, but they just don't have the ride, cab, suspension adjustability and accessories as compared to the Polaris. the dealer I bought my grizzly 700 from says he can't move a Viking vi. he says he sold 1. he says to big and lacks the power. good luck with what ever you decide to buy!
 

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Yamaha should have waited on the VI imo, came out with a Regular Viking with a V-twin, and then the next year come out with a VI
 

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My opinion is the viking 6 is geared toward companies who need to haul lots of people to job sites in tough terrain who want a reliable work unit. Simple reliable machine and for this it works perfectly. Dont think they intended to unseat the much more sporty Ranger. Viking 6 is more utility and Ranger is more play. Think they are just trying to go after the utility market which is more up in the air than the sport market which is held by Polaris.
 

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Id like to see a Viking VI on tracks, now that would be a nice setup.
 
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My opinion is the viking 6 is geared toward companies who need to haul lots of people to job sites in tough terrain who want a reliable work unit. Simple reliable machine and for this it works perfectly. Dont think they intended to unseat the much more sporty Ranger. Viking 6 is more utility and Ranger is more play. Think they are just trying to go after the utility market which is more up in the air than the sport market which is held by Polaris.
That's sums it up exactly mxgirl, you only have to look too at Yamaha's ads for the VI to realise that it is solely meant to be a utility vehicle and isn't designed to be out hunting the hills with six guys and gear. You're going to lack power with a Viking Chadwickz, although you could turbo it!

I hunt in mine a lot but also use it mainly as a farm vehicle which it is very good at, plenty of room, good size bed, enough power, and can go anywhere that I want, I wouldn't swap my Viking for my purposes for any other brand, although a rear diff would be nice.

Another point to consider is that for hunting Vikings are very noisy (maybe all brands are). I went shooting rabbits in my Viking for the first time last night and really struggled because of the noise, and this was on a property where there where hundreds of rabbits that are very tame and have never been shot at! On the plus side, the Viking was very easy to shoot out of, the passenger grab bar worked perfectly as a rifle rest and there was plenty of room in the cab for two of us with some gear on the center seat.

Honest question, if you want to hunt with four people wouldn't a small 4wd vehicle suit you better? At least you get air con and a heater that way!
 
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